I stumbled upon a post of Mii, by his reaction, I’m guessing he was banned from adsense (correct me if I’m wrong). First of all, I already told you on my post about “that keyword” that you won’t make money from that. It’s a polluted traffic to say the least. What makes me realized is that my top 3 reason why bloggers do that is because they want to be noticed (traffic) or want to clear the pinay scandal name. To my surprise, I am wrong, Mii said that the #1 priority for this propaganda is the money. Too bad, it went the other way around.
The Disadvantage of Optimizing for the “That” Keyword
More Traffic is not entirely equal to More Money
Learn from this guy, he have the #1 position for a keyword being search 10k times per day. He got he’s bandwidth eaten up thus costing him more. You might say, hey, that’s ok, More Traffic = More Money right? This is what I already said, more traffic is not necessarily more money. You have to get clean organic, and related traffic to get that formula right. Which I already explained in how to seo your blog.
Adsense Don’t Pay Adult Keyword
Adsense gets his fund from Adwords. That’s what the ads display when you put the adsense code on your site. Adwords, doesn’t allow porn or adult content. So where will adsense get his funds to pay you?
Unrelated Content
Google bans. Period. If you got unrelated content on your site. You will get ban sooner or later. And it’s impossible to be reinstated.
Smartpricing
If you’re still not yet banned and still having that adsense ads on your site, you will see a great deal of traffic on this keyword. But do they convert? I don’t know. What I know is, with that traffic, lots of views are being made by, searchers, by bloggers and more bloggers coming back on the site to see its ranking on the PS keyword. This will lead to a low CTR. Having a low CTR or 3% and below, will have YOUR WHOLE ACCOUNT Smartpriced. What is smartpricing you say? Its googles way of protecting advertisers from LOW QUALITY TRAFFIC, meaning, traffic that doesn’t click. When Google found out that you have a low CTR, they will give you the ads that are low cost $0.01 - $0.2 per click. There are times where you’ll get a $1 per click but I really don’t know how often.
The Solution
The only thing I can say about the solution is to optimize your blog or site to keywords that really relate to your topic. Hijacking any keyword might bring in good traffic, but due to the irrelevancy of your site, your monitization will be f*cked up… Mind you, I’m a web designer and I only know these things because I experienced them. I am not an SEO guru/god/demihuman. It’s the result of consistent test because this is where I make money online.
June 8th, 2008 at 5:56 am
Yes, I will correct you. I didn’t get banned for hijacking for this particular keyword. I’ve been banned by Google ages before I even created the Pinay Scandal post. And guess what? When I originally had the post up, I didn’t have any ads on my site. To some people, it’s for the money. To some people, it’s for the traffic. For me? No reason at all.
Please start quoting where it started from: http://www.macuha.com/2007/10/seo/pinay-scandal/
June 8th, 2008 at 2:47 pm
Well for me.. It is for the traffic.. Money ?? HHmm no money for this keyword. But thru this keyword I have increased my Visitors. My post alone has been marked by Big G from the earlier stage ,.
But what happen, since I am the first participant of that keyword Hijacking I benefit from lots of referral from other site who is constantly showing in the first page.
For my long time visitors the knew on what I did to take advantage of those keywords.
June 8th, 2008 at 3:01 pm
@Mi
My statement was if you were banned from adsense. So I need not to be corrected I believe. I didn’t said you were banned from hijacking.
@Dex
Good for you if you made money on that keyword. But for me, I believe I didn’t made money with that because those keywords trigger the Charity (Public Service) ads from google.
June 9th, 2008 at 12:08 pm
Making money from blogs is really a big thing hehe… Keyword Hijacking might be a good idea to reach more people but you have to have a good content to win regular visitors.
June 9th, 2008 at 12:31 pm
@icy
From my experience, Regular readers do not convert into clicks. Only searchers coming from google. Regular readers tend to be bloggers in which they are ad blind.
June 11th, 2008 at 6:43 am
if the only money you know on the internet is Google money, then you are right. There’s no money on that keyword. But FYI, there are other making money programs which you can take advantage of if you have such traffic. when i started this campaign, i know for a fact that you’ll not make money from Google Adsense with this kind of traffic. Ever heard of Google Adsense’s alternative ad feature, where you can opt to display other advertisement instead of the Public Service Ads? Ever heard of Pay-Per-Impression programs? Where people get paid for each impression and not for clicks?
Google bans for invalid clicks. Google bans people posting their ads on pornographic materials. You are right. But bloggers blogging about pinay scandal and how they hate it are not posting pornographic materials, do they? Out of 70+ who joined the campaign, have you met someone who got banned from Adsense because of joining the campaign? Where’s your proof?
Unrelated content? Can Google decide which one is related and which one is not if it’s crawling personal blogs? Personal bloggers blog about anything. I can post about Malu Fernandez at one time and about Ces Drilon today, and maybe about Lakers tomorrow. They are totally unrelated. Will it get me banned? I’ve been blogging for 4 years now blogging totally unrelated topics on each post and my blog is still high on SERPS. Well, if you are talking based on experience, it seems to me that Google treats us differently. I’ve never been banned from Google Adsense or from Google’s index for posting unrelated contents.
June 11th, 2008 at 7:33 am
@marghil
What I meant about unrelated content is having to make a post about turtles, optimize it for the keyword turtles and then having to post on the body of the article about tomatoes. That’s what unrelated content means. What you’re saying is you’re blog is just about anything. Its not unrelated… just… a blog about anything. Do you dig?
Since you’ve been blogging for 4 years, I’m sure you know that google do a visual inspection of sites. Where real people inspect a site. Google already said it when you submit a site, they have no control on when they will do the inspection on yours. My friend got into making money online using adsense. and he was banned just a month ago. When did he started? 7 years ago.
I know you rank so well for your name. You don’t have to tell me that.
June 11th, 2008 at 9:19 am
@snoob… so, you think bloggers blogging about pinay scandal and how they hate it are posting unrelated content? their title is about pinay scandal, they talk about pinay scandal, although in a way telling that they hate it, so, what makes it unrelated? is telling people that you hate pinay scandal makes it an “unrelated content”? here’s my question on your example. are people talking about how they hate turtles posting an unrelated content?
Regarding Google’s visual inspection of site, you mean, manually? Really? If you’re talking about Google Adsense, they will manually inspect your site before they approve your application. That’s the manual inspection I know. They also do manual inspection from time to time to see if you are following their terms.
Well, as for your definition of unrelated content, of course, they’ll ban you if you are optimizing for turtles and your content is about tomatoes. But will they ban you if you are optimizing for turtles and your content is about how you hate turtles? As far as I’m concerned, I don’t violate any TOS on any of my blog posts and I don’t have any “unrelated content” as per your definition.
By the way, regarding smart pricing. CTR has no relation for getting smart priced. Lower CTR doesn’t mean lower conversion. Do a little googling and read the facts. It’s on the official Adsense blog.
June 11th, 2008 at 9:48 am
Man, my eyes must be playing with me. You’ll make “Pinay Scandal Videos” as your post title then will say on the body, “Sorry, there are no pinay scandal videos here and this is a movement etc.” I’m stating this as an example as I have seen tons of blogs like this.
Dude, I don’t care what you post or how unrelated you are with your pinay scandal movement. I want to educate people with how I learned things by the way adsense goes. Let’s not hide the fact that the main reason for this movement is the money. You wanted the traffic and so you did. Now where is the money?
CTR with no relation to smartpricing? LMAO!!! I do this for a living. You must be kidding me.
June 11th, 2008 at 10:28 am
That’s their title and they will tell people that they hate it. Again, is telling people that you hate something “unrelated content” to you? Well, if that is how you see it, then, so be it. I cannot force anything in you the way you cannot force anything on me.
You said…
Let’s not hide the fact that the main reason for this movement is the money. You wanted the traffic and so you did. Now where is the money?
Did you read my blog post. My original blog post? You’re putting words in my mouth. The main reason for this movement is the money? Can you quote me on that, please? We are not THAT desperate.
If you read the blog posts made by those who joined the campaign, they joined not to get more money but to get more traffic to their blog and to “clean” the SERPS. So, why are you looking for money? Those who joined the campaign aren’t looking for one, do they? The goal is to dominate the first page, and to get more traffic. Earning money is just an added bonus if they took advantage of that traffic.
And about smart pricing, I’m not kidding you. You can get the highest CTR in the world and you can get smart priced and you can get the smallest CTR in the world and still earn high per click. Higher CTR doesn’t mean high conversion and vice versa.
June 11th, 2008 at 10:41 am
Man I would believe you that it isn’t for the money if you’ll remove 100 ads on your site.
Again, I believe it is for the money. If it’s not, go tell the TV, the media or protest on the street if its for a good cause.
Dude, this post is not for you. Who are you anyway? This is how I see things by reading other blogs. You are not emperor of the Pinay scandal movement. So I don’t know it that’s your main goal. I’m saying this because I read the other blogs. You don’t even rank for pinay scandal keyword.
Is this it?
2. Clickthrough rate doesn’t affect advertiser return on investment (ROI)
The percentage of clicks that convert for an advertiser is the most important factor in an advertiser’s ROI, so it’s not only possible, but common, to have a low CTR and a high advertiser conversion rate. It’s also possible to have a high CTR and a low conversion rate. Don’t remove the AdSense code from your site just because it has a lower CTR - it may be one of your best converting sites.
Dude, its not for you. Its for the advertiser. YOU ARE A PUBLISHER. Get it get it?
June 11th, 2008 at 10:55 am
who am I anyway? i’m the one who started it. if you think, people joined it for the money, so be it. i just presented my side here so that people can read both sides of the equation.
You don’t get it. It only means that even if you have a high CTR (as a publisher) and advertiser doesn’t convert, you can get smart priced too. If you have a low CTR (as a publisher) and your advertiser has a higher conversion, you’ll not get smart priced.
Don’t remove the AdSense code from your site just because it has a lower CTR - it may be one of your best converting sites. How do you explain this sentence if this is for the advertiser? Do advertiser put Adsense code???
June 11th, 2008 at 11:06 am
You’re so clueless. Let me explain it to you and add to your 4 years of blogging experience.
2. Clickthrough rate doesn’t affect advertiser return on investment (ROI)
> Your CTR doesn’t affect the advertisers’ ROI.
Now, the advertiser invest their money on adwords. It says, even if you have low or high CTR, it doesn’t affect the advertisers CPA, leads or sales. It has nothing to do with you.
The percentage of clicks that convert for an advertiser is the most important factor in an advertiser’s ROI, so it’s not only possible, but common, to have a low CTR and a high advertiser conversion rate.
> So its only common to have a high or low CTR and “A HIGH CONVERSION RATE”. You have no way of knowing this because its in the adwords panel. It only says that YOUR CTR is not RELATED TO THE ADWORDS CONVERSION RATE.
It’s also possible to have a high CTR and a low conversion rate.
I have a High CTR but the one who clicked my ads doens’t buy the item on the advertiser site. It is possible for the LOW conversion on the advertiser part.
Don’t remove the AdSense code from your site just because it has a lower CTR - it may be one of your best converting sites.
> Because clicks might convert any time soon.
The CTR that I’m telling on this post is about google’s way of determining what advertiser they want to put. If you have a low CTR they will place Talipapa ads on your site compared to a high CTR which will put Super Mall on your ads which pays more.
June 11th, 2008 at 11:35 am
based on your explanation, you’re now telling that those sentences is not for the advertiser but for the publisher, isn’t it? you are now explaining that even I, as a publisher, has low CTR, it does not affect the advertiser’s conversion, right? well, i agree with that.
But you’re talking about smart pricing. And publisher get smart priced not because they have low CTR but because the advertisers advertising on them got LOW conversion. Smart pricing is dependent on the advertisers’ conversion, NOT on the publisher’s CTR. If advertisers has a LOW conversion in your site, you’ll get smart priced, not because you have a LOW CTR.
That’s why it’s good to have targeted visitors in your site so that people clicking your adsense ads might convert, coz if people clicking the ads on your site does not convert, no matter how high your CTR is, you’ll get smart priced.
As to whether a low CTR page get talipapa ads and a high CTR page get Supermall ads, well, if that is your experience, then so be it. As for my experience, it all depends on your content. If you target high paying keywords such as those insurance-related keywords, you’ll get high paying ads even with low CTR.
June 11th, 2008 at 11:54 am
Ok ok. I read you post 5 times and I think I know what you mean. Its possible to have a HIGH CTR but low conversion rate. Yup its possible. And google will check if its legit or click fraud.
If its LOW CTR and High Conversion Rate. Your traffic is shit and google will put talipapa ads. And candidacy for smartpricing.
June 11th, 2008 at 1:49 pm
@snoob… i think, you got me right this time. my point here is that CTR is not a factor to get smart priced but conversion. Whether you have a high or low CTR, if it doesn’t convert on the advertiser side, then, you are a big smart pricing candidate. that’s why it’s good to know SEO, because your visitors are targeted, the probability of getting conversion is high, keeping you safe from smart pricing.
i apologize if I sounded a little rude to you. but i’m not, really. we can always agree to disagree. i’m not an expert and i also based my knowledge on what i read and my experience.
thanks for this productive conversation.
June 11th, 2008 at 1:54 pm
LMAO. You’re not listening man. LOW CTR is Smartprice. How hard is it to understand?
Do what you want man. LOL
If you’re happy with 0.01 to 0.20 clicks so be it. Its just a matter of preference.
June 11th, 2008 at 2:20 pm
@snoob… actually, this is a topic that only Google can answer. There’s been an ongoing debate already whether low CTR really caused smart pricing or not, we are just adding ourselves to the statistics.
Here are some blog posts telling that low CTR is not the real cause for getting smart priced but low advertiser conversion:
http://www.scratch99.com/2008/01/avoid-adsense-smart-pricing-on-blogs/
http://makemoneyforbeginners.blogspot.com/2008/01/finding-niche-markets.html
And here’s a blog post that is telling that low CTR is the real factor for getting smart priced.
http://courtneytuttle.com/2008/01/02/how-to-get-worthless-adsense-clicks/
So, there’s no point for us arguing on this topic. Both side have their own point. Let’s just do what we believe in and believe in what we do.
June 11th, 2008 at 2:39 pm
Dude, read the blogs. The yall say the same thing LOW CTR = Smartpriced. I don’t get it why you can’t accept the fact that low CTR will make you smartpriced. Maybe because you don’t want to accept the fact that you messed up everybody’s CTR with your pinay scandal propaganda.